Monday, August 14, 2017

Can Church and State Truly be Separated?

I like to try to reason things out before going with the flow about different things. Sometimes I might miss an important part of the picture and reach a wrong conclusion. However, I cannot see any other conclusion about this issue than the one I am about to present.

Can we actually separate Church and State?
The answer depends on which political party you belong.
  • If you are a Republican: the answer is no; Church and State were never meant to be separated and it is not stated in the constitution.
  • If you are a Democrat: the answer is yes; the constitution declares Church and State shall be separate.
Who is right? Let us take an impartial glance at this vital issue.

When we talk about Church, take note that we are talking about Christianity as it is the only religion called the Church. The State of course is the American government. The reason we say America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles is that Judaism is the only religion that shares the same Old Testament Scriptures (values) as Christianity.

The majority of Americans claim to be Christian and therefore, belong to the Church. Likewise, since these Christians are Americans they also belong to the State. The Christian's first duty is to God (Church). Next in line of importance should be family, followed by a list that includes State, job, and other matters of importance to the individual. As you see, loyalty to State ranks below Church and family and although important, and it should certainly never outrank Church (God).

As a Christian's loyalty is primarily to God and God's Word, the values of God's Word should extend to every area of his or her life, including decisions based on politics and/or State. If the moral platform of a political party does not conform to those of the Bible, it becomes a major concern to the Christian. When a voter votes for a candidate who endorses immoral values, it indicate that the voter agrees and endorses the same immoral values as the candidate. The Bible clearly indicates that by agreeing with sin you are just as guilty as the one who commits the sin. In other words, if you applaud someone who is committing a crime, you are agreeing to the fact that whatever evil he is doing is okay in your eyes? The same when voting for a political candidate.

When dealing with the issue of separation Church and State, it is evident that no matter what the constitution declares, Church and State cannot be separated. For the Christian, it is important to belong to a political party whose platform stems from biblical moral standards and to choose and vote for candidates whose values derive from those same standards.

Sometimes it is hard to notice the wolf in sheep's clothing, so the next time you see a politician walking out of Church carrying a Bible, take note of what his party values stands for and in particular if his integrity reflex moral biblical standards. A careful check of his background should provide the necessary evidence. Therefore, if his moral values go against God's Word, do not become a partaker in his sin. The Bible tells us when confronted with a decision between Life or Death; choose Life. When confronted with the Pocketbook or Morality; choose Morality, because God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Jesus said: He who comes to Me will never hunger, he who believes on Me will never thirst.


Mon said...

St Augustine made a really good argu,ent on why the church and the state should not be separated.

thadine said...

Thanks for an interesting read. I've always found this question very strange. After all, can Church and an individual truly be separated? Your beliefs influence every decision you make. A politician can't leave their core values at the door when making decisions that will impact the State. Whether or not it's outwardly acknowledged, Church and State can't truly be separated.

Rick D. said...

With respect, I disagree with the conclusions drawn. First, you left no allowance for those of us who, as Americans, refuse to declare themselves either Democrat or Republican. Would you devalue me as easily as you seem to devalue all those who do not equate Christianity with the GOP?

Second, your examination of the issue focuses on America and Americans, whereas the issue is more of a global one based on the approach you've taken.

I would recommend taking a hard look at Chapter 13 (Social Morality) in Mere Christianity, part of which I quote here:

"...If so, that brings us right up against the real snag in all this drawing up of blueprints for a Christian society. Most of us are not really approaching the subject in order to find out what Christianity says: we are approaching it in the hope of finding support from Christianity for the views of our own party. We are looking for an ally where we are offered either a Master or--a Judge. I am just the same. There are bits in this section that I wanted to leave out. And that is why nothing whatever is going to come of such talks unless we go a much longer way round. A Christian society is not going to arrive until most of us really want it: and we are not going to want it until we become fully Christian. I may repeat 'Do as you would he done by' till I am black in the face, but I cannot really carry it out till I love my neighbour as myself: and I cannot learn to love my neighbour as myself till I learn to love God: and I cannot learn to love God except by learning to obey Him. And so, as I warned you, we are driven on to something more inward--driven on from social matters to religious matters. For the longest way round is the shortest way home."

It does no good to say you are a Christian if you decide others - whom you may never meet - cannot be Christians if they do not hold to your beliefs (which is the logic of your position).

George said...

Rick - I respect your respect to disagree with me, however...

I am not singling out Republicans or Democrats, but Christians. What matters is if you agree with sin.

If I stood by and watched a kidnapping or a murder being committed and I cheered the perpetrator on, would I not be just as guilty as the one doing the crime? The same holds true for a Christian who votes for a candidate who supports abortion.

The economy does not affect the Christian if he is trusting in the Lord for his substance. God sanctioned more wars than America has been involved in. The real issue for a Christian is abortion and that is one of "the seven things listed in Proverbs that God hates" - the shedding of innocent blood. Those who died in Iraq were vounteers, innocent babies died involuntarily.

I do not judge who is a Christian, I am merely pointing out something I see people who say they are Christians doing that does not set right with true Christianity. To agree with sin makes one just as guilty as the one who sins. Think about it. The same holds true if your party is Independent as it holds true for Christians worldwide.

Tom Thorne said...

I am very anxious to here your comments on hell.